Getting personal with the director of Bend
it Like Becham.
She was transplanted
from Kenya as a toddler to Britain where her father
was turned down for a position at Barclay’s Bank in
London because he was a Sikh. After stints as a BBC
news reporter, she went on to direct award-winning
documentaries for the British Film Institute, BBC
and Channel 4. Today Gurinder Chadha is being hailed
as the most successful Indian woman filmmaker from
Britain after the resounding success of her third
feature film Bend it Like Beckham both in Britain
as well as globally.
On a tour for the nationwide release of her film in
the United States, Chadha sat down for an interview
with Little India, after having some fun with a sheepish,
but unrepentant, video store owner after identified
herself and she scolded him for renting pirated copies
of her film.
The issue of piracy is becoming monumental among
South Asians worldwide isn’t it?
I do need to stress this very strongly that even though
most of the Indian community has seen the film on
pirated copies it is so critical that they come and
see it in cinema halls, because it will encourage
more finance for South Asian film makers.
In Britain the people did just that and it was such
a strong signal to the British film industry, where
initially being resigned to having a hard time to
find finance for my film because they thought there
wont be an audience, to finding instead such a huge
audience. So in Britain now people are looking forward
to seeing films on Indian subject matters, because
the financiers have seen a huge audience and made
money. Here in America I know of one story at least
where a big American company was looking to finance
a film by an American born Indian director and decided
to pass on the film because of the piracy problem.
They felt that if they did finance the film the Indian
audiences will watch them on pirated DVDs/videos and
they won’t make money. So that is one person whose
career has been damaged because of his community.
< Your first feature Bhaji on the Beach won numerous
International awards. It was cultural comedy where
three generations of Indian women take a day trip
from London to the seaside town of Blackpool, yet
it brought out some dark cultural issues, and your
second film What’s Cooking, which was filmed in USA,
explored the cultural, familial, social issues of
four very different families, African American, Latino,
Jewish, and Vietnamese as they celebrated Thanksgiving
in Los Angeles. What were the experiences making these
two films?
Bhaji on the Beach was an art house release. It got
a cult following in the art house crowd, but was not
a commercial success. We grew up around the issues
that are detailed in the film.
What’s Cooking is a very British film about America.
It was originally titled American Pie, but we had
to change the name because of another movie by the
same name.
You collaborated on the script of What’s Cooking
with your husband Paul Mayeda Berges who is a native
of Los Angeles. How uniquely different was your perspective
from his?
He would take things more for granted but I would
ask more for depth in terms of asking about the class
background of people, because most people in America
are from the middle class, in a way he had never explored
before. So I was asking for more specific things like
how do they cook their food, what ingredients do they
use, where do they shop? This helped make the characters
three-dimensional for me a lot of times.
You said that lot of the characters brought their
own perspective into the movie. So how much improvisation
did you allow?
There was very little improvisation. What the characters
did was to make their interaction with each other
very real, very comfortable. They took the words and
brought them to life and acted as real families would
act. I find that if the script is tight you can give
the actors an opportunity to improvise in the way
they speak their lines, but at the end of the day
you invariably return to the script.
Were you surprised at the fact that What’s Cooking
didn’t do well commercially in spite of receiving
such critical acclaim?
In America people see race first and the movie second,
which is why Bend it like Beckham has been such an
enormous success not only among Indians but also the
British who saw it as a British film about London
where the girl just happened to be Indian, whereas
in What’s Cooking the Americans and other ethnic groups
said “oh this film is about black, Latino, Vietnamese
and Jewish people so its not for us.”
How has the
audience changed since the time you made Bhaji on
the Beach to Bend it Like Beckham?.
Bhaji on the Beach was shown in 5 prints. Bend it
Like Beckham is being shown in over 450 prints, and
that itself is an indication that the British film
industry has changed a lot. Earlier even the British
preferred to see Hollywood films and not British films.
Today there is a British film industry that is thriving
now and a huge audience for British films.
Bend it Like Beckham is again a film about cultural
issues, a young girl from a traditional Indian family
who wants to be a football star while her mother wants
her to make perfect round chapattis to win over a
groom. You said the film was very autobiographical.
So did you grow around the same issues and did your
marriage to a non-Indian create waves?
No my marriage when it did happen, didn’t create waves,
but yes my cousins and I definitely grew up battling
the issues shown in the film. What I wanted to show
was the fact that the community is not often what
you think it is. There are very strong and strict
fathers who say you must marry or I will break your
legs, but as we move from generation to generation,
both parents and the kids change and adapt. All of
my three films share a lot in common. The South Asian
community in England is a very strong community. It’s
not just Indian, but a part of everything around it,
so coming from Britain and West London gives you a
very strong sense of who you are and where you are
and that’s portrayed in my work. Britain is not cut
off from other cultures; it’s an island and you are
constantly coming into contact with every one else
and remain part and parcel of everything that goes
on cross culturally. In USA I get the feeling that
Indians can live their whole life here and not connect
with any other community.
Which was the toughest scene to shoot in the film?
Just the football scenes were tough. We worked very
hard on it, we developed a separate camera casing,
which allowed us to shoot from the ground along the
grass from the goalie’s point of view, and that position
made the girls look very strong and powerful.
How does it feel to be the only Indian woman filmmaker
in the British film industry?
I consider myself more to be a British filmmaker and
part and parcel of the rest of the British film industry.
It is hard to make films no matter who you are. Finance
is always a problem. I think the only thing different
for me is the kind of stories I want to tell and I
guess you have to work harder to convince people when
you are working on stories that are not conventional
or commercial, although after the success of Bend
it Like Beckham I’m being considered one of the most
commercially viable film makers that Britain has.
It had nothing to do with being Indian or a woman,
but because I made a film that made a lot of money.
It’s made it easier now to get finance and today I
can probably make any film I want.
How have you evolved as a filmmaker from the time
you made Bhaji on the Beach to the blockbuster Bend
it Like Beckham?
I think my sensibilities are still the same, but now
I have more experience. I never went to film school,
so it’s more about learning on the job and being more
efficient with the film making process, which experience
gives you.
I hear you are making Pride and Prejudice and
Aishwarya Rai is the lead actress. How are you visualizing
the adaptation of Jane Austen’s popular novel?
It will be like an international musical, part Fiddler
on the Roof, part West Side Story and part Bollywood
all rolled into one. It’s a big budget film and the
hero will be an American actor so it will be an intercultural
romance as well! We start shooting in July.
At the end of each movie what is of most value
to you?
Bringing about an experience on screen and realizing
that if I hadn’t done it no one else would.